Some NPCs can even spawn with different types of armor, like Elven gloves with Steel Plate Armor. Volkihars auto heal and would be the sturdiest but even then you probably ash them eventually. At the college, find Phinis Gestor and pick the dialog option about wanting to know more about Conjuration. This gives you the opportunity to collect and use these thralls at your whim without fear of having them disappear from your game. It doesn't sound like much, but it's better than nothing. Also take note that health is estimated as I have been unable to find any information regarding this. Unique to the Frost thrall. Thanks to metatrongrhm1 for the heads up. It's really as easy as that. The only problem with this is, you are going to have to kill them or spawn in another conjuration so that you can loot their body. I didn't have any appropriately filled so gems at the time, so unfortunately I had kill my steward and bard as well to fill up the black star with souls. You can do this an infinite amount of times, but don't expect a whole lot of difference between their gear. As of patch 1.9, this still works and I'd argue that it's by far the fastest, albeit rather boring, way to level up your Conjuration Skill. A Dunmer Forsworn (yep, you read that right) found in Knifepoint Mine. He also has that phantasm exploding effect and sound when he dies too. Features: Changed Dead Thrall spell limitation from lvl 40 to 100. Simplicity at it's finest. If the player is below level 58, then the Champion will be at level 38. It's also important to remember to take any perks deemed necessary in the Conjuration tree relating to the Atronachs if one is going to constantly rely on them. Thralls constantly get stuck on small objects too. All other denizens of walled cities will have their belongings placed inside of an unnamed urn or coffin. Old Orc can only be found in a random encounter, so actually coming across him may prove quite arduous. Found in the College of Winterhold, usually in the Hall of Attainment. Don't just take anyone's advice: Be sure to save before checking if a cell is safe. to a mudcrab only to be cut down in one swipe by its tiny little pincer. He's immune to Fire, Frost, Shock, and shouts (yours and Draugrs). This can range from being exceptionally powerful, unique dialog while thralled, the ability to dance, an absurd amount of health, and much more. Classified as a "Citizen" and level capped at 1 (read: terrible stats), she seems to be more for decoration or fodder for the enemy. TBH as soon as I heard about Dead Thrall I power-leveled on through some of the other spells. She relies on her Flames spell for damage, so she'll just kind of be, "there", instead of killing stuff. You can visit the Hall of the Dead to see the NPC's coffin or urn (you don't have to, but if you want to make extra sure, you can), just to make sure the process worked correctly. Once completed, Illia will be available as a follower. My forum name is "StucklnMyPants". In fact, it gets the biggest overall percentage boost out of the three (technically two, I'll talk more about it in the Storm Thrall section), with over a 200% increase to health between the two versions, while the frost thrall gets around a 49% increase from its 60 second version to permanent version. He spends almost all of his time at the Palace of the Kings in Windhelm. I initially thought that he was going to be really awesome, as he proceed to decapitate my thralls. Another potential problem is that if you decide to spare him, he is then marked essential and cannot be killed. She won't win too many battles with her max 1 HP, but she knows how to sit in a chair, in your house, very well. So far, it appears that he is only killable if you side with the Imperials, as he is otherwise marked essential. This means that you can theoretically have an infinite amount of permanent corpses. Whiterun is the only town that has named coffins. Stuck at lvl 33 I plan to level past this soon and perma thrall Ulfric, at the moment though Im going round getting strong npc's, because soon ill reach the Thrall cap, and some thralls, even past 40 are thrallable if you meet them earlier (the only ones I wasnt able to thrall … Dual-casted Flames - Close range attack that does 8 points of damage per second. Just goes to show, don't believe everything you read. The Frost Atronach does not possess this ability. He's a bit more deceptive than one initially perceives, as, yes, he does stop leveling at 28, but he also has relatively high HP for his level. Before Thralling her, make sure to talk to her and complete the small unmarked side quest for a total of 6 level increases to Archery. When the player is at higher levels she spawns with a full set of Steel Plate Armor. Killing him will allow you to thrall his body, releasing him make him instantly disappear, forever losing the ability to thrall him. To me, it seems to vary by what type of armor your follower is wearing. The only prerequisite to obtain this spell is to have at least 90 skill in Conjuration. TP > OoT = MM > ST = SS = tWW > TFH > ALBW = PH > BOTW = MC > OoA > OoS > LA > FSA > FS > LoZ > AoL >>> aLttP, Vorstag is a perfect candidate for the Blades. He would level up every time you leveled up, up to his maximum level (in this case level 25). Let me sum up. Pinewatch is located in-between Helgen and Falkreath. It requires time dedicated to it and testing. Bthardmaz is North of Markarth and then slightly East. If the player is level 59 or higher, the Champion will be level 51, making him un-thrall able. The fastest way to level Conjuration is to repeatedly cast Soul Trap on a dead corpse. This is more than likely an oversight and an unintended function, but it is currently part of the game (still as of 1.9). The Storm thrall, however, does not. It's a bit interesting how this works regarding the player, as at low levels, your skill tends to increase fairly quickly. The link is here --> The Champion of Boethiah might work. 40 - 60 Damage to all within melee range (may do different damage based on how close the enemy is, not sure). In addition to it's Flames spell, it gets the Firebolt spell, which does 20 points of damage and sets the target on fire. You will also be able to purchase from Phinis, the Storm Thrall spell, the Frost Thrall spell, and most importantly the Dead Thrall spell. This works by taking all of the items off of their corpse. The easiest way to get to this place is to start from Solitude. This means that if you test your thrall, and they are still there after 24 hours, you might assume that the thrall is permanent, but if you stay away awhile, for whatever reason, the thrall might not be there when you get back. Flame Cloak - 10 points of damage per second when enemy is in melee range. Necromancy doubles the amount of time that undead are raised for, and Atromancy doubles the amount of time that Atronachs are raised for. A Bard at the Candlehearth Hall in Windhelm. Talk about cool. I saved the worst for last. They only wear the EXACT armor that they spawned in. There's a lot of information regarding Thralls, especially the permanent thralls, as such, I'm sure there is a lot of information that I don't have or that is not very well known. Life keeps on moving and priorities shift. Probably the biggest problem is the AI (Artificial Intelligence). Help! Usually these permanent thralls that were hostile towards the player, go back to their original area in which they spawned. It's sometimes finicky on when it decides to activate (at least on the 360 version), so I usually end up looking at my follower's left foot or left arm to get it to activate. Thought of it yet? The problem though, is most NPCs disappear after one day (as of patch 1.9) and provided that you are out of the area. More than likely, her stats will be very similar to other named Bandit Chiefs, like Hajvarr Iron-Hand (P) or Ghunzul (P). Hopefully you got some good use out of it. Take for instance, if you have a bandit chief, he or she will spawn a new full set of Steel Plate Armor. GameFAQs user iMACobra said, "An interesting note about Legate Rikke, she will not have her helmet on at the end of Liberation of Skyrim unless you initially joined the Imperials and defected to the Stormcloaks during The Jagged Crown. Agrius is found in Halldir's Carin (located just Southwest of Falkreath), and he's already dead when the player enters. This will make your naked thrall generate a new set of clothes. It may take a loading screen before they equip it, though. Now that bunny rabbit that was looking at you funny has to deal with you, your follower, two thralls, and three pets. You can only have one equipped at a time and if you equip another, the first one will be unequipped so the second one can be equipped. A ton of permanent thralls. She is not involved in any quest, nor does she sell any spells or items. Any cell that does not reset can be used to store thralls, items, and equipment. You do not have to wait on your thrall to catch up to you. tl;dr: Dead Thralls not being able to access inventories and Orchendor thrall not attacking. And they're wearable by the player. Hearing the same few sentences over and over does not bother me in the slightest. The items that respawn are things like; Mogrul's Orders, Writ of Executions, and A Scrawled Letter. All you hear about is how dangerous looking your spell is. Your feedback will directly help me make guides better now, and in the future. So after level 25, you will continue to level up, while his stats are as high as they will go. A mage that owns the Museum of the Mythic Dawn in Dawnstar. Mainly from Skill books found through out the world, here are some locations for getting some easy points. He usually opens the encounter with a mage armor spell and then follows it up with thunderbolt or incinerate until an enemy gets close. From what I've seen, the thralled version uses this in place of the melee attack that its weaker 60 second counterpart gets. She seems retain access to some of her spells as I've witnessed her casting some type of mage armor (probably Oakflesh, 40 points to armor rating for 60 seconds) and a conjure familiar spell. I may occasionally post small updates to this guide, but bigger updates are more unlikely to happen. Loads of useful perks. Casting cloak spells, or transforming into a Vampire Lord DG, will dispel any summoned thralls. If you leave them in your house, they will not disappear. Certain Helmets and Circlets, however, do not de-equip each other, so you can have two pieces of head gear equipped at the same time. I have not noticed a unique effect from the permanent version compared to the 60 second version, like that of the Flame thrall's flames spell. As soon as I walked into my house, I was mauled by a Bandit Chief and a Bandit Marauder. At this point the Thrall should be with you. Reviews. Okay, just kidding. It also has a Flame Cloak that does 10 damage a second to any enemy at close range, and an extra 10% damage per second when the enemy is on fire. That'll teach you to hop away from me... Just to be clear, you will not have to choose between your follower and thralls. TL:DR version, I don't think any of them are particularly bad. If only she continued to sing me her lovely songs after she was thralled while I'm enthralled. You can also use a horse if you don't want to use a dead body. The problem is, whenever you go through a long loading screen, the bug takes over once again. Now, if you give these thralls staffs that conjure Flame Atronachs, Frost Atronachs, Dremora Lords, etc., they each can raise one to fight with them. The books are listed in what order I have deemed to require the least amount of time or challenge to obtain, to most amount of time or challenge to obtain. The last thing you'd want to happen is to lose a corpse and possibly some items. Thralls are unique to the fact that they technically can spawn an infinite amount of armor. This is the second quest in the Dark Brotherhood quest line. Any target that is already on fire will take 10% additional damage (of the initial damage of the attack) over the period of one second. This entire section is written with patch 1.9 in mind. To maximize experience, you would need recast the spell after defeating each enemy. The phrase, "Don't put all of your eggs in one basket" comes to mind here. I decided to create a new build recently (2 handed + conjuration, focusing on undead). Go somewhere far away and wait 30 in game days. But when waiting 30 days, you'll find that there can be some strange behavior from your dead thralls. There is a workaround however. Aug 20, 2019 @ 1:41pm missing dead thrall how can you find your dead thrall? Go away and stop following me! The player definitely has to micro-manage a lot less. Meaning, if you made leather gloves at a forge, and then give it to a thrall that spawned with leather gloves, they will NEVER wear the ones that you made. With these perks, you are now looking at 120 seconds for a single cast, 264 seconds (4 minutes and 24 seconds) for dual casting, and a massive 47,952 hours for your thrall. Well, there are NPCs that live in walled cities that are actually permanent, but because they are buried, they end up getting removed from the game instead. This guide would be non-existent without masterpug. Yamarz is arguably the most hardy dead thrall target in the game, boasting over 1200 health and having four armor pieces that can be enchanted and smithed. You receive this quest from Astrid of the Dark Brotherhood early in the Dark Brotherhood quest line. Each body was stayed around for at least 7 or 8 days with patches 1.2 and below, which made keeping thralls a lot easier. There's just a small problem that can sometimes hold Orchendor back though; When enemies get close, he falls back to Frostbite. It appears that at least one of his attacks has a chance to do extra damage, which isn't necessarily noted by anything particular that I could tell. It's just the way that it is. So if any of these items are placed inside a corpse's inventory, the corpse will be considered permanent, until the permanent item is removed from its inventory. But I digress. When I found her, it was amidst a battle of two dragons and a troll. No? But that's nothing a Great sword won't take care of. No chattering. There is a hidden counter that triggers this quest. It doesn't matter what you do to them, your thrall will still use these weapons. If your comment is longer than 140 characters or if you would like me to directly respond to you, you can PM me. Go back to your NPC. Makes a great table decoration. So if you've always wanted three people following you around, well, thralling is for you. These are the only damaging elements you can put on your weapons, these are the only damage reducing enchantments you can put on your gear (not counting the general magic reduction), these are the only magical attacks enemies will use, and these are the only damaging magical attacks that you can use. Thankfully, this really is rare (I've yet to experience it and there are rarely topics regarding it) and you more than likely won't experience it, especially if you have the latest patch. They can be kept in addition to each other. Not sure if this is a common bug or not, but a Dead Thrall I had picked up along the way to the torch puzzle, a Vampire Nightstalker, started attacking me after I got my hand spiked by the button. Received as a quest reward for completing the quest, Go to the top of the College and cast the. Well, you should at least be excited. It should be noted that the Flame thrall's dual-casted flames spell appears to be dual-casted in animation ONLY. Once you return from jail, your thrall will turn into a level 53 Volkihar Master Vampire. It really is wonderful to talk to other people of a like mind. You cannot use Storm Call or Chain Lightning if you want them to...... you haven't set a signature for the message boards yet! The Shrine to Peyrite is located Southeast from Bthardmaz. You actually gain an entire level, meaning if you're bar is halfway filled with experience, purchasing a skill increase will start you at the same part in the experience bar on the next level. As of patch 1.3 though, most bodies disappear after one day, so revisiting your house within every 24 hours can become quite difficult. After completing her quest, she is no longer flagged "Essential", at which point she is able to meet an untimely death if the player so chooses. Just try different areas on their bodies until you get one that works reliably. Overall, this category is very small, and I could only give you a few more examples that I know of outside of the ones already listed. Moans. Common trainers can level your skill from 1 - 50. From there go directly North to Wolfskull Cave. An Imperial Soldier and General of the Imperial Army, he's usually found in Castle Dour in Solitude. He attacks in fairly rapid succession and does a decent job of keeping continual damage on the enemy. The best I can tell is he's a named NPC that's fairly powerful, but I've seen people swear by him. Oh well. The first thing to check, is their permanency. However, if you are near an enemy, you will gain experience every time you recast the spell. She is only permanent if grave robbed. So, if you travel into a town, it can be beneficial to your sanity to get into a habit of killing your thralls by casting Conjure Familiar or any other type of summoning spell ( any of the "cloak" spells in the Destruction tree works too, but only if you don't have Dawnguard installed). He is marked as an "Essential" follower and is only un-flagged during the quest Battle for Windhelm, which can only be received if you sided with the Imperials for the Civil War quest line. This book is obtained as a quest reward for completing the quest Discerning the Transmundane, which can be started by talking to Septimus Signus at Septimus Signus's Outpost. Not having that happen is the big draw for both Thrall / Ritual Stone, at least for me. If you are having trouble keeping your thrall alive, consider changing the difficulty to a higher setting. Your thrall will use the Forsworn weapon in their offhand provided that you give them a weapon made of Steel or better for their right hand weapon. These bodies can stay an upwards of 7 or 8 days before disappearing (and even 29 days in some cases! They have trouble crossing rivers, and even sometimes, they will not zone through some doors that lead into dungeons. Fire works well against Frost, and conversely, Frost works well against Fire. This also applies to every NPC in the game, meaning, your thrall will do half as much damage as they normally would to any enemy, but an enemy will also do half as much damage to your thrall. Rigel is found in the second area at Pinewatch. All you need to do is to give Cicero armor so he'll equip it, dismiss him as a follower, cast paralyze on him or hit him with a weapon with the paralyze enchantment, and then pickpocket him as he stands back up. So far, the most noticeable problem with keeping thralls is having them disappear. On his corpse is a journal, which starts the quest Forbidden Legend, and also the Ivory Dragon Claw, which you will need to make it through Folgunthur. Put a few worthless items in different containers. Why? Unique in the fact that when he dies, a shade will spawn which may or may not be hostile towards the player. They are each are useful in their own ways, although the Storm Atronach certainly has an advantage in damage compared to the other two. These Helmets that do not de-equip Circlets are: The Jagged Crown (received from the aptly named mission The Jagged Crown, which is an early quest when siding with either the Imperials or Stormcloaks in the Civil War quest line) and an Ancient Shrouded Cowl (which can be acquired from the quest Locate the Assassin of Old which is part of the Dark Brotherhood quest line), can both be worn in addition to a Circlet. She is another character that is basically a named Bandit Chief. An Imperial Assassin, Cicero is found in the Dawnstar Sanctuary (Just West of Dawnstar) during the quest The Cure for Madness (which is one of the final quests in the Dark Brotherhood quest line). Some are set to be higher. Also, I'm not perfect, so if you see something wrong, correct me. This, however, is not carried over to the Flame thrall. Also, while her primary skills are in Alteration, Conjuration, Destruction, and Restoration, she lacks any spells in the Conjuration school. After you defeat it, summon it again. Most information regarding thralls is sparse and split up between different web pages, sites, and people. A higher setting? And over. First, not all NPCs always spawn the same amount of armor. This however is not the case. A good mage follower or thrall. faster attack normal. An elemental mage found in Darklight Tower, which is located West-Southwest of Riften and South of Goldenglow Estate. Meaning, you will have to kill and re-thrall your thrall each time you enter a new area. If the player agrees, Yamarz turns on the player forcing you to kill him. I haven't got the chance to load it up and test it, so you may want to take some extra precaution when storing his body. See Grave Robbing. But it doesn't come cheap. I mean...Nazir. Hajvarr disappears after 29 in game days. Save your game. You'll be able to take his clothes at that particular time, and he'll actually generate new clothes once he moves to a new cell (as will anyone else including thralls, see Equipping Your Thrall). You know, because a snail is slow and it takes a long time to get somewhere.....oh, whatever. They will always receive 15% damage no matter what your numbers say so you will just ash your thralls eventually anyway. So now, to fully test if a body is permanent, in my opinion, you need to wait at least 11 days to be sure (although a full 30 days is the absolute best way to confirm). The Thrall version uses Dual-casted Flames in place of this. Found in Harmugstahl, which is located North of Karthwasten (which is East of Markarth). The highest level that you can thrall an NPC is 40. The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim Xbox 360 . If all of the stuff looks the same, and your items in the containers are still there, the cell is then considered "safe". It is said that not only does he retain his voice clips, but he'll use shouts too while thralled. It's also important to note that all of the Storm thralls melee attacks are mitigated by armor, while its chain lighting spell is only affected by shock or magic reducing enchantments. This however is not the case and it appears that it is only counting damage as if there was one flames spell activated, which means a meager 8 points a second of fire damage. I checked, and saw thralls fast traveled like horses. The first quest Innocence Lost can be received from Aventus Aretino in Windhelm. Bounties can occasionally be moved in and out of your inventory and not stack, but it's not a guarantee; best to play it safe. This let's you bypass directly talking to them, and then having to cycle through dialog options. What? He's found at Shroud Hearth Barrow which is on the outskirts of Ivarstead. UESP claims that the Frost Thrall's Frost Cloak does 10 points a second, but as of 1.6, it does not. You can only receive one point in a skill increase from each book, so any extra copy of the book that you find will not provide an increase to your Conjuration skill. It also has available to it, huge amounts of melee damage, which is a bit of a slap in the face to the Frost thrall, as it is intended to be the melee type. He's essentially a Bandit Chief with a unique name, as he has the usual plate armor and sometimes a plate helmet equipped. The only time that I really notice it is when I'm in my house, putting away items and such. I mentioned this earlier, but it is the reason why many players prefer dead thralls. The 8pts of damage a second spell. Another notable difference is what happens to your Zombie after they die. While almost all of these items can be obtained only once, it appears that certain items can be obtained multiple times. Take note of the box when you purchase a level in a skill. How to make the guards to stop attacking me? Outside of pathing issues generally accompanied with thralls, these are the bugs that I've experienced. That's right, killing her and stashing her body in your house (wow, that sounded a lot less creepy in my head). An Elderly lady living at Anise's Cabin. Only a handful of NPCs will not actually moan. Well, if you have a dead thrall, you'll hear it quite a bit. It just has to come directly off of their body. Or better yet, just take a Warhammer to your thrall's skull while everyone stands around you, commenting on your dangerous looking spell. HOWEVER, saving these books will likely only save time if you aren't grinding your Conjuration skill on a corpse or a horse. 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